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president obama and chris matthews will say this is a false issue. in white house fact sheet, the first bullet point that the white house makes and the first one that president obama says continuing to strengthen the border security. if i could make a final point, i think that republicans and also democrats should stop thinking about this in terms of politics. good policy is good politics. i don't think republicans should worry about who will vote for them in years coming because of something they do today. they should do the right thing for the economy and the national security. it's better than doing nothing. >> shouldn't it be coupled with entitle reform? >> bob: a couple of things here i'd say. the vast, vast majority of people work and you can see them in city. they are working. they are not near to go on the dole. obama and the senate called for them not to get the welfare grant. the other thing as dana pointed out, she did not point this out, i'll point it out. the border got more and more secure every year. it is good policy. we have to deal
president obama and chris matthews will say this is a false issue. in white house fact sheet, the first bullet point that the white house makes and the first one that president obama says continuing to strengthen the border security. if i could make a final point, i think that republicans and also democrats should stop thinking about this in terms of politics. good policy is good politics. i don't think republicans should worry about who will vote for them in years coming because of something...
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i think it's great that president obama has finally come around to the g.o.p.'s point of view on some of these issues such as the fact that we need better systems for the employers even if i would ever else so i screeches seem truly compromised richard is mark is marco rubio the hero in all of this one too i mean this is here although i'm just trying to. listen to the far as i love the fact that francesco woke up on the you know liberal side of the bed this morning talking why you know immigration is such a republican idea but if i if i had my of my facts right just a couple weeks just a couple months ago during this election we heard they should be we should have they should be voluntary deportation and we could get them all out the country of a couple of weeks ago we had republican members of congress talking about why i will never support and that am is the any pathway to citizenship you're going to have that i mean i said it. the other day said this boils down to the fact that both ben's and francesco understand the politics of immigration of changing and th
i think it's great that president obama has finally come around to the g.o.p.'s point of view on some of these issues such as the fact that we need better systems for the employers even if i would ever else so i screeches seem truly compromised richard is mark is marco rubio the hero in all of this one too i mean this is here although i'm just trying to. listen to the far as i love the fact that francesco woke up on the you know liberal side of the bed this morning talking why you know...
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enacted unfold part of that tactic includes meeting with those who have a stake in this issue like gabby giffords and mark kelly. of course they have a pact so they are collaborating to get out a message. i also think you're going to see president obama hit the road, get out of d.c., get out of the kwhoois and take his message to the people. of course he's trying to get stiffer gun laws enacted which include reenstating the ban on assault weapons, limiting high-capacity magazines. we saw joe biden in virginia last week doing the same thing. he had a round table discussion about that. but then there's sort of this second track. they will be working in conjunction with the retooled version of the campaign which is organizing for action. they will be trying to mobilize people around this issue at the grassroots levels. the question is how much capital do they want to spend on this. some are going to be tough to get through congress. >> organizing for action which is now headed by jim messina has only been doing what broadly listed at risk building. that may reflect to some degree a timing q
enacted unfold part of that tactic includes meeting with those who have a stake in this issue like gabby giffords and mark kelly. of course they have a pact so they are collaborating to get out a message. i also think you're going to see president obama hit the road, get out of d.c., get out of the kwhoois and take his message to the people. of course he's trying to get stiffer gun laws enacted which include reenstating the ban on assault weapons, limiting high-capacity magazines. we saw joe...
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. >> senator mccain, have you talked to president obama about this issue? >> i have not. >> what are the state of relations these days? >> um, i have great respect for the president. i hope and i believe that at some point we will all be meeting with the president on this issue, because we need to coordinate with the administration. but i think i haven't seen a degree of partisanship overall as there is today, but we are showing some signs of bipartisanship. this thing we just did in averting the nuclear option in the senate, this issue, i think that republicans are more inclined to let the process go forward, and senator reid is more, more inclined to let us have amendments. i see, i think that when we are down to 11% approval rating, there was a favorability thing, different things are favorable, a colonoscopy is viewed more favorably than a member of congress. [laughter] we're in kind of bad shape, to say the least. i won't pursue that line any further -- [laughter] but, you know, i've got this old line, a guy ran up to me in the airport and said, say, a
. >> senator mccain, have you talked to president obama about this issue? >> i have not. >> what are the state of relations these days? >> um, i have great respect for the president. i hope and i believe that at some point we will all be meeting with the president on this issue, because we need to coordinate with the administration. but i think i haven't seen a degree of partisanship overall as there is today, but we are showing some signs of bipartisanship. this thing...
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it's an obama realignment. and as i've heard you say before, i think this is now a center left country. the president's right on all these issues. republicans are kind of having a nervous breakdown, don't know what to do about it, so they're playing these kinds of games. >> well, it is our new theme here on the program. yes, we do say let's get to work. but let's call it what it is. this is a center left country. the issues are very progressive that people are polling very strongly in favor of. and another theme out of the republican party is victimization. i mean, you've got boehner and you got ryan and you got limbaugh. all seem to think that president obama is out to just destroy the gop. what a weak presentation of where they are, i would say. >> well, first of all, it would be impossible to victimize rush limbaugh. he is the great -- he is the great guy who is going out after people all the time. it would be very hard to feel sorry for him. it's even harder to feel sorry for boehner when he cries or says s
it's an obama realignment. and as i've heard you say before, i think this is now a center left country. the president's right on all these issues. republicans are kind of having a nervous breakdown, don't know what to do about it, so they're playing these kinds of games. >> well, it is our new theme here on the program. yes, we do say let's get to work. but let's call it what it is. this is a center left country. the issues are very progressive that people are polling very strongly in...
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many republicans say president obama is all too happy to let the issue fester and watch as their party continues to struggle with hispanic voters. however, politico's mike allen says that doesn't pass the political smell test. quote kwb this is one of the few political mysteries that has an unambiguously correct answer. top demes tell us if president obama is going to have a big legacy accomplishment this term, it has to be immigration. so he's making an historic test of whether the campaign machinery can translate to governing. joining us is howard fineman and nia-malika henderson. nia-malika, let me begin with you. what's your answer to the question of the president's true objective here? >> well, i think his true objective has been what it always was. even going back to 2008 when he campaigned on the issue of comprehensive immigration reform. obviously wasn't able to get it done in his first term. gave a bunch of speeches that essentially laid out the same thing he laid out yesterday, the sort of guiding framework where he wants to take this. i think it always has been an issue for
many republicans say president obama is all too happy to let the issue fester and watch as their party continues to struggle with hispanic voters. however, politico's mike allen says that doesn't pass the political smell test. quote kwb this is one of the few political mysteries that has an unambiguously correct answer. top demes tell us if president obama is going to have a big legacy accomplishment this term, it has to be immigration. so he's making an historic test of whether the campaign...
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obviously that's correlated. >> i think the real issue that no one is talking about is the fact that we probably will extend an h 2 aing aagricultural visa process. and we could have a second class of worker that can't leave their employer. that's a dangerous precedent. >> it's fraught with abuse. not like they had a great history with workers, that's a good point too. >> sarah, can we cut to the chase here. 2007, totally different political landscape, and we had many conservatives absolutely using immigration reform as a way to, frankly, penalize other republicans. 2013, the politics have changed. that's why you have more republicans who are a part of this whole deal. isn't that really the driving force here? why it will be a lot easier than it was six years ago? >> yes. that's what i said at the outset. the election changed that, and a good example is my colleague, marco rubio, who i think has taken a very courageous stand, he is now one of the leaders that will give cover to a lo of the republicans have taken the opposite position. >> here is what he said yesterday. i am concerned
obviously that's correlated. >> i think the real issue that no one is talking about is the fact that we probably will extend an h 2 aing aagricultural visa process. and we could have a second class of worker that can't leave their employer. that's a dangerous precedent. >> it's fraught with abuse. not like they had a great history with workers, that's a good point too. >> sarah, can we cut to the chase here. 2007, totally different political landscape, and we had many...